"The author claims that the attendance estimate for Edmonton (a strong
60,000 on race day) is equivalent to the estimates for Kansas, Kentucky and
Chicagoland." - The Wicker Bill
Constructive debate becomes impossible when the counterparty engages in gross mischaracterizations. Let's review what I actually wrote.
"Attendance at IndyCar oval races at Kansas, Kentucky and Chicagoland was
undeniably awful in 2009." - Roggespierre
Any assertion that attendance at these races was equal to that of Edmonton, St. Pete and Mid-Ohio would obviously be inacurrate. That is why I wrote nothing of the sort.
I did in fact write that attendance at these events was approximately 60,000 back when the IndyCar Series was a predominantly oval racing product. It is now a predominantly road racing product. Its roster of drivers includes exactly one full-time entry that is driven by an oval racer, and he happens to be the founder's stepson. That is not much of a value proposition for U.S. spectators, a vast majority of whom has demonstrated that it prefers oval racing products.
I also articulated my moral abhorrence of publicly subsidized racing events. Edmonton drew 60,000 spectators. That in itself is very good. However, the Edmonton event requires direct public subsidies from the local, provincial and, this year, national governments. IndyCar racing, much as we might like it, is not a public good.
Permanent racing facilities, from Road America to Michigan International Speedway, are bastions of excess capacity. If IndyCar were to present a marketable product, then it might race at some of these facilities. Moreover, unlike publicly financed athletic stadiums, temporary circuits offer no residual value once the event is complete. It can't be used by conventioneers. Everything goes back to the warehouse until next year, when the whole thing is subsidized once again.
"This is called supporting evidence, Roggespierre." - The Wicker Bill
This dig is unnecessarily offensive and poorly conceived. Wicker Bill is referring to the paltry crowd at Chicagoland this year. I have not only stipulated to that fact, but also provided "supporting evidence" that is of a far more sophisticated orientation.
Wicker Bill has made my point. Oval racing fans will not accept a predominantly road racing product that occasionaly ventures into oval racing. However, they have demonstrated some enthusiasm for a predominantly oval racing product that occasionally ventures into road racing. Witness the two best-attended road races in the United States each year. They are at Watkins Glen and Sonoma, and they are not IndyCar events.
"I attended the Mid-Ohio race and I can tell you the crowd was outstanding.
The owner of the track told me the morning of the race that traffic was backed
up for four miles entering the course. This was not solely due to 'comp ticket
distributions by Honda and Firestone.'” - The Wicker Bill
My only claim regarding Mid-Ohio was that year-over-year attendance obviously declined in 2009. Notice that there is no rebuttal. In addition, Wicker Bill implicitly confirms my claim regarding comp ticket distributions by Honda and Firestone. "Not solely due to" would seem to imply that a good portion of the spectators at Mid-Ohio paid nothing for tickets. This does not present a particularly favorable valuation of the IndyCar product.
"Then, to wrap up the post, Roggespierre puts on his/her/its tin-foil hat and
leaves us with this gem: 'Oh, and if NASCAR Fans and Oval Fans were homogenous,
then the Indianapolis 500 could not possibly exist. Perhaps that is the
intent.'" - The Wicker Bill
The Wicker Bill has this one exactly right. It was a cheap shot; I am embarrassed to admit that I wrote it. Kudos to The Wicker Bill for calling me on it.
My goal here is to provide data analysis that might point the way to a successful economic path for the IndyCar Series. I failed in this instance. I apologize to readers who expect and deserve better.
Roggespierre
2001 IRL Event Summary
ReplyDeleteEVENT TRACK EST. ATTENDANCE NETWORK NR/NCR HOUSEHOLDS
PENNZOIL COPPER WORLD INDY 200 PHOENIX INTL 40,000 ABC-LIVE/ 1.0 1,022,000
INFINITI GRAND PRIX OF MIAMI HOMESTEAD 35,000 ABC-LIVE/ 0.8 817,600
ATLANTA 500 CLASSIC ATLANTA SPEEDWAY 48,500 ESPN2-LIVE/ 0.6 457,800
INDIANAPOLIS 500 IMS 400,000 ABC-LIVE 5.8 5,927,600
CASINO MAGIC 500 TEXAS SPEEDWAY 70,800 ESPN-LIVE/ 0.6 492,600
RADISSON INDY 200 PIKES PEAK INTL 36,000 ABC-LIVE/ 0.7 715,400
SUNTRUST INDY CHALLENGE RICHMOND INTL 53,000 ESPN-LIVE/ 0.5 410,500
AMERISTAR CASINO INDY 200 KANSAS 75,000 ABC-LIVE/ 1.3 1,328,600
HARRAH'S INDY 200 NASHVILLE 38,000 ESPN-LIVE/ 0.6 492,600
BELTERRA CASINO INDY 300 KENTUCKY 56,000 ABC-LIVE/ 1.1 1,124,200
ST. LOUIS INDY 250 GATEWAY 28,000 ESPN-LIVE/ 0.4 328,800
DELPHI AUTOMOTIVE INDY 300 CHICAGO 75,000 ABC-LIVE/ 1.1 1,160,500
CHEVY 500 TEXAS SPEEDWAY 62,400 ESPN2-LIVE+1 0.4 323,600
TOTAL ATTENDANCE 1,017,700
AVERAGE ATTENDANCE 78,285
TOTAL ATTENDANCE W/O INDY 500 617,700
AVERAGE ATTENDANCE W/O INDY 500 51,475
TOTAL VIEWERSHIP 14,601,800
AVERAGE VIEWERSHIP 1,123,215
TOTAL NETWORK VIEWERSHIP 12,095,900
AVERAGE NETWORK VIEWERSHIP 1,727,986
TOTAL NETWORK VIEWERSHIP W/O INDY 500 6,168,300
AVERAGE NETWORK VIEWERSHIP W/O INDY500 1,028,050
TOTAL CABLE VIEWERSHIP 2,505,900
AVERAGE CABLE VIEWERSHIP 417,650
-John
John,
ReplyDeleteThank you for providing this invaluable data.
Those numbers are made more impressive when you consider 1) the IRL teams had their hind quarters handed to them by CART teams in 2000 and 2001, and 2) CART and most motorsports writers were keenly focused on informing anyone who would listen that the IRL sucked.
Notice that the Average Network Viewership darn near eclipsed the best performing ABC race outside of Indy this year.
But you already know all this, so I'll stop. This will make for some interesting number-crunching in the days ahead.
Again, thank you for contributing.
Best Regards,
Roggespierre
A comment on Wicker Bill. Don't invest too much energy in defending yourself against him. One rebuttal is plenty. Stay focused on your mission. There is so much more yet to discuss so fundamental to the sucecess of a series.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous,
ReplyDeleteOn reflection, I think that you're right. It's a distraction. The thing that hooked me was the Mike King reference. I do think King provides a good barometer of what IRL management is thinking. I've believed that for years, going back to a time when IRL management was thinking something that is completely different than what it's thinking now.
Anyway, much appreciation to you for helping me regain focus.
Best Regards,
Roggespierre